Winter all over cover going on- Must be getting colder.

A very popular topic every year - this reference section may help.

Moderators: Ed, betty boop, Gazjen

Re: Winter all over cover going on- Must be getting colder.

Postby salamis » Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:04 pm

T 15 wrote:I have my tube heaters mounted on base boards to keep them from falling over ( 2 of my "many" ) )

Image


Yer but I bet the ones in Tremlet are Rivaesque shiny varnished versions, knowing what you and your brother are like working in marine wood.
***Still playing with boats.***

Robbie.

'Sessa Islamorada 23'

Based at Saxon Wharf Southampton.

A lot of money is tainted: 'Taint yours, and 'taint mine.
User avatar
salamis
Vice Admiral
Vice Admiral
 
Posts: 874
Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:34 am
Location: Surrey

Re: Winter all over cover going on- Must be getting colder.

Postby jokaboat » Fri Nov 04, 2011 10:20 am

I'm still up top.

Last year we didn't bother with the heaters as the motor was winterised and the fresh water drained. By leaving the cabin door open to maximise ventilation it was fresh as a fresh thing in the spring so we might do the same again this year.
Monterey 214fsc - Joka-tu - Based at Saxon Wharf - MMSI 235078633 - Call sign 2DGA9

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach him how to fish, and he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day.
jokaboat
Admiral of The Fleet
Admiral of The Fleet
 
Posts: 4331
Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 10:28 am
Location: Solent

Re: Winter all over cover going on- Must be getting colder.

Postby ian h » Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:46 am

Have been thinking of installing a dehumidifier this year,
Has anyone tried 1 and if so what do they think?
Hunton 36 "Flying Thoroughbred"
Based at Saxon Wharf
ian h
Vice Admiral
Vice Admiral
 
Posts: 689
Joined: Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:29 pm
Location: Reading

Re: Winter all over cover going on- Must be getting colder.

Postby T 15 » Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:33 pm

salamis wrote:
T 15 wrote:I have my tube heaters mounted on base boards to keep them from falling over ( 2 of my "many" ) )

Image


Yer but I bet the ones in Tremlet are Rivaesque shiny varnished versions, knowing what you and your brother are like working in marine wood.



:mrgreen:

none in Tremlett 15 as she is in a nice "boat shed"


:D
1973 Tremlett 15 + 1976 Merc 500, Ribeye 4.5m + Yam 40hp 4stroke, Bounty Sovereign 30 Sunbridge.
User avatar
T 15
Rear Admiral
Rear Admiral
 
Posts: 404
Joined: Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:01 pm
Location: Northern Ireland

Re: Winter all over cover going on- Must be getting colder.

Postby T 15 » Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:39 pm

ian h wrote:Have been thinking of installing a dehumidifier this year,
Has anyone tried 1 and if so what do they think?



yes, great job but get a dessicent dehumidifier, last year I changed to a Meaco as it got top marks in another mag..... :wink: & the guys on "the other channel" seem to think they are the best too

a current link

http://www.meaco.com/proddetail.asp?prod=DD122FW


make sue the one you get has an auto by-pass drain & that when set on a time clock that the model is one that will turn its self back on after being cut off by the time clock
1973 Tremlett 15 + 1976 Merc 500, Ribeye 4.5m + Yam 40hp 4stroke, Bounty Sovereign 30 Sunbridge.
User avatar
T 15
Rear Admiral
Rear Admiral
 
Posts: 404
Joined: Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:01 pm
Location: Northern Ireland

Re: Winter all over cover going on- Must be getting colder.

Postby ian h » Fri Nov 04, 2011 2:08 pm

T 15 wrote:
ian h wrote:Have been thinking of installing a dehumidifier this year,
Has anyone tried 1 and if so what do they think?



yes, great job but get a dessicent dehumidifier, last year I changed to a Meaco as it got top marks in another mag..... :wink: & the guys on "the other channel" seem to think they are the best too

a current link

http://www.meaco.com/proddetail.asp?prod=DD122FW


make sue the one you get has an auto by-pass drain & that when set on a time clock that the model is one that will turn its self back on after being cut off by the time clock


Thanks for that, I have been looking at that model as it has good reviews but always prefer to hear from a fellow boater
Hunton 36 "Flying Thoroughbred"
Based at Saxon Wharf
ian h
Vice Admiral
Vice Admiral
 
Posts: 689
Joined: Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:29 pm
Location: Reading

Re: Winter all over cover going on- Must be getting colder.

Postby salamis » Fri Nov 04, 2011 2:58 pm

I have 2 decent sized shrouded ventilation holes on my winter cover and the bellows action of the cover moving in the wind seems to keep the insides very dry. As thIs is the first year I have had electicity available to the boat for heating in years it will be interesting to see how improved it will be keeping everything dry.
***Still playing with boats.***

Robbie.

'Sessa Islamorada 23'

Based at Saxon Wharf Southampton.

A lot of money is tainted: 'Taint yours, and 'taint mine.
User avatar
salamis
Vice Admiral
Vice Admiral
 
Posts: 874
Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:34 am
Location: Surrey

Re: Winter all over cover going on- Must be getting colder.

Postby Warpa » Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:49 pm

salamis wrote:I have 2 decent sized shrouded ventilation holes on my winter cover and the bellows action of the cover moving in the wind seems to keep the insides very dry. As thIs is the first year I have had electicity available to the boat for heating in years it will be interesting to see how improved it will be keeping everything dry.



Thats interesting, is it worth loosening the poles fron and rea from my popper cover to allow the cover to flex and move the air a bit? it would make sense as i always have them very taught.

Here is an old pic of the cover, you can see the pole in the bowrider section, there is one in the rear out of view.

Image
Warpa
Commodore
Commodore
 
Posts: 224
Joined: Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:37 pm
Location: Southampton

Re: Winter all over cover going on- Must be getting colder.

Postby salamis » Mon Nov 07, 2011 12:17 am

Warpa it is always best to keep the cover very tight with a pole to make a high point to allow rain water to run off otherwise you will have quite a few gallons of water build up with no run off point. The flexing is only slight but over a prolonged period it’s just enough to move air around. I actually have two poles under my cover to stop rain water puddling.
This is my cover, but as now drystacked is tied off to the racking:

Image
***Still playing with boats.***

Robbie.

'Sessa Islamorada 23'

Based at Saxon Wharf Southampton.

A lot of money is tainted: 'Taint yours, and 'taint mine.
User avatar
salamis
Vice Admiral
Vice Admiral
 
Posts: 874
Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:34 am
Location: Surrey

Re: Winter all over cover going on- Must be getting colder.

Postby markanddawn » Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:49 am

We went out in Cardiff Bay for Bonfire night, having not used the boat for 2 months. Tested everything and all was fine, got out of the marina and the nav light failed :evil: back in we went.

I fitted a tube heater during summer (I knew it would be a horrible job once cold) to the engine bay and is now a permanent attachment.

As I moor all year round, I normally remove all soft furnishings but haven't yet. The result - two soaking wet pillows and damp cushions in cabin, even though the temperature hasn't really dropped too much yet.

I will this week strip all interior furniture that isn't fixed. Although we will still use her, we will not be using cabin so the cushions can stay off until March.

Will put another tube heater in cabin and two moisture absorbing devices (rechargeable type). Roll on summer! :D
1997 Cranchi Turchese 24 Volvo Penta 7.4L V8 and 290 Duo
User avatar
markanddawn
Vice Admiral
Vice Admiral
 
Posts: 535
Joined: Sun May 29, 2011 10:33 am
Location: Penarth, Vale of Glamorgan

Re: Winter all over cover going on- Must be getting colder.

Postby Matt13 » Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:05 am

markanddawn wrote:Will put another tube heater in cabin and two moisture absorbing devices (rechargeable type). Roll on summer! :D



I bought a couple of these ready for the winter, not sure how good they are.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pingi-Rechargea ... 953&sr=8-1
Crownline 250CR 'eLJay'
Saxon Wharf
User avatar
Matt13
Admiral
Admiral
 
Posts: 1306
Joined: Fri Feb 05, 2010 6:10 pm
Location: North Hampshire

Re: Winter all over cover going on- Must be getting colder.

Postby markanddawn » Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:11 am

I have these but not tried yet, my neighbour has borrowed them to dry out car after windscreen leak (not just boats then). For £15 worth a try.
Attachments
1997 Cranchi Turchese 24 Volvo Penta 7.4L V8 and 290 Duo
User avatar
markanddawn
Vice Admiral
Vice Admiral
 
Posts: 535
Joined: Sun May 29, 2011 10:33 am
Location: Penarth, Vale of Glamorgan

Re: Winter all over cover going on- Must be getting colder.

Postby salamis » Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:24 am

Hi markanddawn, dampness under the cover is due to lack of ventilation, my cover has two ventilation holes covered by plastic shrouds and damp is not a problem. The tube heater are to protect plastic and rubber pipes and seals against freezing. Warming up damp air with no means of venting it out is going to cause considerable condensation issues.
***Still playing with boats.***

Robbie.

'Sessa Islamorada 23'

Based at Saxon Wharf Southampton.

A lot of money is tainted: 'Taint yours, and 'taint mine.
User avatar
salamis
Vice Admiral
Vice Admiral
 
Posts: 874
Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:34 am
Location: Surrey

Re: Winter all over cover going on- Must be getting colder.

Postby JORIDAPILOT » Mon Nov 07, 2011 2:32 pm

ian h wrote:
T 15 wrote:
ian h wrote:Have been thinking of installing a dehumidifier this year,
Has anyone tried 1 and if so what do they think?



yes, great job but get a dessicent dehumidifier, last year I changed to a Meaco as it got top marks in another mag..... :wink: & the guys on "the other channel" seem to think they are the best too

a current link

http://www.meaco.com/proddetail.asp?prod=DD122FW


make sue the one you get has an auto by-pass drain & that when set on a time clock that the model is one that will turn its self back on after being cut off by the time clock


Thanks for that, I have been looking at that model as it has good reviews but always prefer to hear from a fellow boater


I use exactly the same model but different badge and it has kept the cabin bone dry. I didn't remove anything last year, even had a load of old teeshirts in the bin under the seating and everything was kept dry. I do keep everything closed and the cabin door locked. It is not airtight but pretty good. I would thoroughly reccommend this particularlar type. One point to note though, the sales blurb states "The air coming out of the DD122FW will be about 10 to 12°C warmer than the air that goes into it. Very useful for drying washing and warming cold areas of the house." This is only the case when the machine is drying off the dessicant wheel, not all the time, generally the air out is the same temperature as the air in, the machine is sampling the air and checking the RH, if it is not extracting moisture it does not heat it.
I have used the bags of granules in the past, similar to http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pingi-Rechargea ... 953&sr=8-1 in Matts post and found that they absorbed a lot of moisture but eventuall they are "full" and just hung in the cabin like a big wet rag. You need to take them home and dry them out regularly, probably once a week.
I also have an oil filled radiator in the engine bay with a frost thermostat. If set correctly this keeps the bay at between 1.5 and 3 degrees even on the coldest nights. I have a max and min thermometer in both compartments and often the cabin records lower temperatures than the engine bay.

Of course I am totally relient on a power supply, if that goes down, I'm stuffed. :cry:
Larson 240 Cabrio "JORIDA", Saxon Wharf.
User avatar
JORIDAPILOT
Admiral
Admiral
 
Posts: 1145
Joined: Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:42 pm
Location: Southampton

Re: Winter all over cover going on- Must be getting colder.

Postby Matt13 » Mon Nov 07, 2011 3:13 pm

The ones I linked to you just put in the microwave for 6 minutes to dry out so if I do that once a week I shouldnt have a problem and I can do that on the boat. So do you not bother with winterising the engine then JP?
Crownline 250CR 'eLJay'
Saxon Wharf
User avatar
Matt13
Admiral
Admiral
 
Posts: 1306
Joined: Fri Feb 05, 2010 6:10 pm
Location: North Hampshire

PreviousNext

Return to Winterising

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest